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Raymon James
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.01.29 18:44:00 -
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 Originally by: Akita T
Reasons are the following categories of people (in decreasing order of rage-inducing blame):
* <stuff> I get myself is worthless and any sales price (above missing parts I bought using ISK) is pure profit for me so I can sell lower than my competition and still make a profit
* <stuff> I react/manufacture is not linked to ingredient/component prices, since I no longer have the ingredients/components, so I will sell for whatever price the market accepts (since obviously stopping reaction/manufacture to sell the ingredients/components instead or recycling are not alternatives I would ever consider)
* I am usually watching the prices/costs/whatever closely, but I never consider the prices things sell for now, but instead I use the price I paid when I got them in the first place
* I am sitting on a lot of <stuff> stockpile and I need the ISK urgently, so I'll sell at whatever price I can get now
you forgot
*Meh I just buy GTCs and plex or from an ISK seller to make up any losses.
*Meh Im just in it to produce.
*How can I be loseing money when Im running 2 production alts a mining alt a mission/exploration running alt a trade alt and need to start another production alt just to burn through the mound of Raw materials that is contstantly growing!!!!!!!
*I produce stuff for my corp but Im producing it faster than they can use it so I dump the excess at whatever price I can get |
Raymon James
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.01.29 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: nether void
Edited by: nether void on 29/01/2009 18:50:33
Ah I think I'm getting the overall picture as to why the market margins can be so horrible at times. In RL there are bills. If you stop producing, you will go bankrupt. You MUST have a certain margin to continue to operate.
There are obviously no such drivers in EVE. You CAN'T fail!
Actualy you can, its just that in eve its easy to make it back and with the skill system being what it is it just gets easyer. lose your cruiser? put in the skills to fly a BC or skills to give you an extra 1-5% on that cruiser for next time. Loseing money on production runs? get the next step in mining gear or skills and be a bit more efficent getting the minerals for them. the list goes on and on to an annoying degree.
the other problem is that the Developers WANT the prices low so that people will PvP more. |
Raymon James
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.01.29 23:07:00 -
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the real problem is how do you value the materials
lets take Isogen
the "quick price" is 59.96
the Scam value is .01(and yes people do get that price for it)
the current highest buyer price on my market is 58.50
the current lowest seller price is 46.90 (Blinks) YESH! LOOK AT YOUR FREAKING LOCAL MARKET YOU FREAKING IDIOTS!(brb)
ok past tence on that one. 
and my current stock based on LILO price is 42.975
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Raymon James
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.01.29 23:14:00 -
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ok I want to have a mini rant
if your going to sell take a look at whats going on localy
putting >200k units up for sale for the lowest price in the region to get it sold fast is idiotic when you can move to another station IN THE SAME SOLAR SYSTEM WITH THE SAME !@#$ NPC CORP and get ~ 25% more for it.
by the same token, putting a buy order up for the highest price in the region is idiotic when you have someone selling or in the same sytem for the lowest price. dont be afraid to use range system or range 5 orders! its perfectly safe to do so most of the time.
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Raymon James
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.01.31 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
Prices in Amarr: when buying components directly from sell orders, 527mil total build for an Orca. They sell for 470mil.
Though you are kind of forced to sell the components with sell orders, as the buy orders for a lot of components are around 1mil ISK.
noone is forceing you to buy from them. in fact its been some time since I bought from a buy order unless the price was under the market for that item(see my previoud post on the idiot who was selling Iso for way less than the current top buy price at a station that was literaly one moon over,)
Often the higher priced orders are not their because they tend to get filled first. |
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